EXCLUSIVE: Inside the Signal Chat on Ukraine
The Houthi Small Group PC wasn't the only Signal chat among top Trump officials. There have been others, including on the Ukraine-Russia War. Here's an exclusive peak inside that chat
On Sunday, the Wall Street Journal reported that National Security Adviser Mike Waltz had created more Signal chat groups to discuss other highly sensitive matters—including groups on Ukraine and other military operations.
In a huge scoop, America Abroad got its hands on a transcript of the Ukraine PC Small Group discussing President Trump’s effort to end the war…. OR, if we actually had, this is what the conversation would have looked like.
Mike Waltz: Team — gathering everyone here to talk about Ukraine. POTUS has been clear. We need to end this war. It’s just horrible that so many young men are dying. The killing has to stop. We need ideas.
Pete Hegseth: Well, Zelensky started this war. He’s the one who needs to understand that the fighting must stop now. Ukraine won’t get its territory back. That’s an unrealistic objective.
JD Vance: We really have no dog in this fight. Every penny we spent on Ukraine has been a waste. We need to get our money back.
Scott Bessent: Righto, VP. I know how to negotiate a good deal. It’s what I do. POTUS has long been interested in rare earths. Let’s tell Ukraine they need to give us the rights to their rare earth materials as payback for the hundreds of billions we sent them over the past 3 years.
JD Vance: Great idea. Let them pay. Let’s get their oil and other critical minerals. And the infrastructure to mine and ship it out. Like ports and rail lines.
Steve Miller: POTUS was clear: we need to take their oil and their rare earths. We need to come out ahead.
Scott Bessent: I will draft an agreement—done tons of these over the years that gets us all the rights. I’ll go to Kyiv and tell Zelensky to sign.
Howard Lutnick: I’ll come with you. I’ve always wanted to try real chicken Kiev in Kyiv! I love this job.
JD Vance: I think Scott can do this on his own. You’ve got enough on your plate planning Liberation Day.
Mike Waltz: Scott, Zelensky will hem and haw about security guarantees, but just tell him that once we have an economic interest in Ukraine that will be even better than some vague guarantee to joining NATO which is obsolete anyway.
Keith Kellogg: I like these ideas, but we need to find a way to end the war. The President has said he wants this war to end. He promised to do it in 24 hours. So we need to get cracking. We need to pressure Putin to end this war. He actually started it, he needs to end it.
Marco Rubio: I agree. Why don’t we reach out to Moscow directly and get a negotiation going. POTUS gets along famously with Putin. Let’s use that leverage to get a ceasefire and end the war. Maybe we offer improved relations with Russia in return for a ceasefire. I can head to Riyadh and meet with Lavrov.
JD Vance: I agree we need to deal with the Russians. The Ukrainians are a pain. You can’t trust them. Zelensky never says thank you. He’s a dictator. They need new elections.
Pete Hegseth: You’re right VP. They don’t have the cards. And we can just stop military assistance and cut off intelligence sharing. If we get a deal with Russia, we’ll force the Ukrainians to play ball. A lot of them are Nazis.
JD Vance: Yeah. And what’s with that combat gear anyway? Hitler wore a uniform. Why can’t Zelensky wear a suit? Especially when you come to visit a hallowed place like President Trump’s Oval Office. Everyone must wear a suit and tie.
Susie Wiles: Except Elon, apparently. And the cooties that kid left on the Resolute desk?!
Steve Witkoff: I’ve talked to Putin. He wants to make a deal. He’s acting in good faith. He’s not asking for anything unreasonable, you know just Luhansk, Donetsk, and whatever those other territories are called. They’re all Russian speaking there. Putin was nice and helped them hold referendums and they voted overwhelmingly to join Russia. We just need to get the world to accept that. Putin is a good person. He wants peace.
Steve Miller: I just reread The Art of the Deal for the third time this year. POTUS has got this exactly right. You make deals by sucking up to strongmen and by bullying weak pussies. It’s how you get shit done.
JD Vance: 👊🏻👊🏻💥💥
Mike Waltz: 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Marco Rubio: 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
This is an amazing convo—you can’t make this stuff up. Except I did.